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Episode 1: ...And Justice for All

April 27, 2021, Podcast - Whose Law is it Anyway?

Whose Law Is It Anyway? explores social issues and legal challenges through conversations with the American Bar Foundation’s award-winning community of researchers and practitioners. Join Matthew Martinez Hannon, the ABF’s temp-turned-staff member-turned-podcaster, as he goes beyond the headlines and into our classrooms, courtrooms, and homes to learn how sociolegal research matters in everyday life.

Episode One: ...And Justice for All

Access to justice is experiencing a crisis in the United States. Every day, millions of people contend with justice problems that can lead to devastating results such as bankruptcy, poverty, and homelessness. Yet, effective legal assistance remains out of reach for many Americans. How can lawyers help ordinary people get the affordable legal support they need? And how will the COVID-19 pandemic compound these problems?

Host Matthew Martinez Hannon interviews sociologist and ABF Faculty Fellow Rebecca Sandefur to discuss her work studying how average Americans view and grapple with their justice problems. Then, Washington-based lawyer and ABF Life Fellow Salvador Mungia discusses his access-to-justice work and the lessons learned from Washington state. 

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Note: The American Bar Foundation is an independent, non-partisan, and non-profit research institute. Any of the viewpoints expressed during the podcasts are those of the guests, not the ABF.

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